Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

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Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by mitsuman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:13 am

Ok, so is it possible to wire up your own Hall effect sensors? for vehicle who did not come equipped with ABS sensors?

i have a 95 del sol...

another option i see is racelogic traction control, and they sell a sensor kit. but are a bit more expensive.

( i suggest you make a kit hondata, as most guys who want it probably dont have ABS)

thanks!

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Spunkster » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:51 am

You can easily use the sensors that are on a civic or integra equipped with ABS. The trigger rings will have to be on the axles and the rear hub will have to also have a trigger ring. These should be relatively easy to find in a junk yard as nearly all Integras were equipped with ABS.

More info can be found in the help file: http://www.hondata.com/help/tractioncontrol/faq.htm

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by mitsuman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:56 am

Spunkster wrote:You can easily use the sensors that are on a civic or integra equipped with ABS. The trigger rings will have to be on the axles and the rear hub will have to also have a trigger ring. These should be relatively easy to find in a junk yard as nearly all Integras were equipped with ABS.
thanks for the info.

what can one use for sensors?

EDIT: read the FAQ. thanks. So i see that hall effect sensors can be used, although is there any further information besides, "tie the negative side of the wheel speed sensor input to ground"?

would also like some info on which are the best hall sensors for this application.

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Spunkster » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:28 pm

The best sensor would be oem as it is designed to be used for many years in harsh environments without failing.

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by mitsuman » Fri May 10, 2013 3:57 pm

Just seems easier to DIY the sensors doesnt it?

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:11 am

This also is a question that i am very interested in. Is there any aftermarket kit that hondata recommended or supplies that can be retrofitted to non ABS arms?

Will there ever be the option of running just a single WSS and using the OEM VSS in the hondata s300 as its comparison?

Please let me know :)

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Spunkster » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:09 am

No, it needs to know the difference in speed for the front and rear wheels.

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:55 pm

Can't this be done simple with your vehical speed sensor in your gearbox ?

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Spunkster » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:47 am

No, the VSS has no idea what the speed of individual wheels are, especially non driven wheels.

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Boost4Breakfast » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:15 pm

Spunkster.... He said to use a single WSS (on a back/non-driven wheel) then utilize the VSS to monitor front wheel speed.... I dont see a reason why this couldn't be integrated. Seem MUCH simpler than running an extra (or 2) front WSS when the factory VSS can be applied to all vehicles (both ABS and Non ABS)

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Hondata » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:25 am

The VSS is nowhere near accurate enough for traction control.
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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:23 pm

Hello,

I am still quite interested in this option. Currently my car was never setup for ABS from the factory. I have noticed my front arms have mounting points for the sensors (Should be able to drill/ tap and mount the sensors) and my front driveshafts (Drive shaft shop units) have the ABS rings.

Now for the Rear. Can I mount the ABS sensors to none abs arms? how / where is the pickup signal? can this be also retrofitted? or will I need to purchased complete new ABS rear trailing arms?

Also Will I need to specifically match the wheel speed sensors to the type of wheel speed rings on the drive shafts etc? Any more info would be great

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:37 am

Can i simply put on Dc2 rear hubs to my current rear trailing arm? and the teeth count will that need to be the same as my drive shaft shop front axels?

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Re: Wheel Sensor DIY For Non ABS Vehicles?

Post by Spunkster » Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:35 am

I believe that all Honda ABS rings have the same number of teeth. The easiest thing to do would be to use the complete rear training arm as it will have the correct hub/ABS ring and also have the correct mounting point for the ABS sensor.

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