95 K20a Bogging at times - KPRO Change needed?

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95 K20a Bogging at times - KPRO Change needed?

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I am having an issue with my K20a in 95 SI hatch. At times I am bogging as if it is not getting fuel. I have tried to recalibrate the TPS, but it does not appear to have an impact. During a short drive it happened a few times closer to end of the ride. My datalog is 13MB so I can only send it via email, but I am looking for some assistance on which direction I should go in at this time. I can email a copy of the datalog and answer any questions that you may have about the car.

k20a - (Partial Rebuilt with new Rods, Rings, Valve Guides and valve seals). Intake/Header/2.5 Apexi Exhaust

The block was planked and decked as well. Everything is running normally besides these periodic bogs.
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Has this been properly tuned on the dyno?
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My tune was done but in between partial builds, we had to go back in to check the rings due to smoke. I have not retuned since, the tune I am using was done after the 1st rebuild.

Can I send you my datalog?
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You can post your calibration as well as a datalog showing the issue.
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Here is my tune that I am currently running. The datalog is too large to post, but if you PM your email, I will forward it to you.

I had my dyno tech take a look and he mentioned that I should check my grounds. I am up for all suggestions.

Thanks!
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You can trim the datalog by selecting the section you want and right clicking it and resaving as a new name.
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Here is a buffered version. I believe that this captured the activity a few times. If not I will upload the beginning of the run as well to see if you see a difference.

Thanks!
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Beginning of the run.

When the issue happens, it is as if I am getting a fuel cutout. It could be the A/F map settings but I am not sure.
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You may want to read the help file about the acceleration smoothing retard: http://www.hondata.com/help/kmanager/ge ... htsub=gear

That is what appears to be happening according to the datalog.
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Thank you. I will send this info to my tuner. I don't think I could do this on my own. Unless you have suggestions on what I should change the rpm and retard to...

I appreciate your assistance thus far.
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Hi - I am back. Last year the bogging cleared after changing my tip in fuel to various settings, then going back to stock. Now this summer I have had bogging at times again. My TPS was re-calibrated and I also had to set my gear ratios to the correct setting. I took a datalog before going on a trip, please take a look and let me know if you believe it is still tip in fuel. I am starting to think it could be a ground if the fuel issue is not the issue.
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What time stamp in the Datalog are you feeling a bog?
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During this run, I believe I felt the bog as soon as I started logging. It happened periodically while driving.

It seems to go away after driving for 5-10 mins.
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Have you made changes for the acceleration smoothing retard from the previous link I posted?
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Hi - I did reference the article and changed retard % for each gear, but it made it worse at the time. Eventually I set it back to stock and last summer it ran great. I have not changed it since reporting this to you again.

Is the Retard% for gear multiplier the only area that I should change? Or should I adjust one of the other values such as "Tip in Retard" or "Duration"?

I can post my calibration if you would like as well.
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