Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

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Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:03 pm

Hey guys,

Currently own a 94 Honda civic with a s300 and plan to purchase the traction control system. Unfortunately however I do not have a abs system standard in my car.

I currently have the dss level 2.9 series front drive shafts. Can I retrofit the dc2 front abs sensors to my existing knuckles and change my rear trailing arms to dc2 units ? Could anyone post up some photos as to what the sensors / arms & mounting points look like ?

Thanks :)

Ps- alter the system so you can you the factory VSS (in gear box) vs rear wheel sensors !!! That way is it possible to ditch the front wheel speed sensors ?!

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:01 pm

Is this effected by the amount of teeth on the driveshaft that the sensors pickup? Will it be a problem with dc2 sensors and DSS shafts suit d16 ?

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Spunkster » Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:58 am

You will have to check with Drive Shaft Shop to see if their axles will work with OEM ABS sensors.

IT is not possible to only use the VSS. You must have individual wheel speed sensors.

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:38 pm

Yes but more to the point are the abs sensors teeth specific?

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Spunkster » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:59 pm

The number of pulses does not matter as long as they are the same for each pair of wheels front or rear.

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by ej1_ex » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:54 am

I need help understanding this. I have dss 5.9 without abs rings. Will I need to purchase the ring gears and get them installed on the axle? How does the rear sensor get the trigger(wheelstud?) Can I someone how use the stock vss instead of running front abs sensors?

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Hondata » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:39 am

The transmission vss cannot be used as it does not have the resolution (only 4 pulses per revolution vs 50 for abs) necessary for traction control.
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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Spunkster » Mon Apr 14, 2014 11:42 am

You must have individual wheel sensors on all wheels. You cannot use the VSS.

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by ej1_ex » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:14 am

since i'm only using it from drag racing will just need 2? 1 front and one rear? Guessing I will have to call DSS to get a abs ring?

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Hondata » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:00 am

Two front and one rear. The fronts tend to alternate wheelspin from side to side, so one sensor doesn't work very well.
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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by ej1_ex » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:06 am

Hondata wrote:Two front and one rear. The fronts tend to alternate wheelspin from side to side, so one sensor doesn't work very well.
So I will need a abs ring on my DSS 5.9? or is there another way to get the trigger?

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Hondata » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:08 am

Your exhaustive list of options are two front ABS sensors with axle rings and at least one rear ABS sensor.
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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by ej1_ex » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:23 am

Hondata wrote:Your exhaustive list of options are two front ABS sensors with axle rings and at least one rear ABS sensor.
thank you sir for answering my questions.

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Lyle_57IAL » Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:21 am

Spunkster wrote:The number of pulses does not matter as long as they are the same for each pair of wheels front or rear.

So as long as rear teeth match each other & Front teeth match each other it won't be a problem?

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Re: Traction control - retrofitting abs sensors

Post by Hondata » Tue Mar 24, 2015 10:47 am

Correction: The number of teeth front and rear do not need to match.
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