just so you know, incase anyone else runs into this problem and cant figure it out.
my microsoft security essentials now finds part of the traction control as
Description: This program is used to create viruses, worms or other malware.
Recommended action: Remove this software immediately.
file:C:\Program Files (x86)\TractionControl\TCManager.exe
i had to go in and allow the program, but didn't figure out that for a while.
hope it helps someone
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