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F20B6

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:22 am
by Christophe1976
Hello,

I'm a french new user (apologize for my english...), my Honda is a Accord 2.0 (F20b6 SHOC 147 hp), I put a Mugen air box, a catalyser and catback from a accord Type R (CH1 with a h22a7 212 hp), the injector came from a F20b DHOC (I've had the engine light defaut on my dash board, my locate dealer think that was a injector, the price for a new was too expensive, I've found them less expensive, but my problem came from on the lambda).
So since few month, my fuel consommation is too high (10 - 12 litre for 100 km, before 7.5 or 8 for 100 km), my locate dealer (the same...) tell me that was a probleme with my ECU, the Hondata S300 was installed in my car, with a new IACV, the new programmation was made but, always the same, someone can help me, is there a probleme with the programmation, I'm not sure with the guy who made it.

Many thanks for your help

Re: F20B6

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:28 am
by Spunkster
This sounds like a tuning issue. I would recommend you have the tuner take another look at it.

Re: F20B6

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:14 am
by Christophe1976
Thanks for your answer,

The tuner as taken another look yesterday, my problem seem to be my lambda, sometimes work, sometimes she doesn't... so, he tells me to buy a B16 lambda for my F20 engine and make a recalibration.

next step E85 with a switch

Re: F20B6

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:35 am
by Spunkster
What does he mean by a B16 lambda?

Re: F20B6

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:59 am
by Christophe1976
My new ECU with the Hondata S300 is made for a B16 engine (civic EG6 apparently), the tuner tell me that the new ECU works more fine with a lambda sensor (header exhaust manifold) made for a B16 engine, do you think he's right?

Re: F20B6

Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:23 am
by Spunkster
Is it setup to run in closed loop with the OEM sensor?

Re: F20B6

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:25 am
by Christophe1976
The closed loop is not enable in my current calibration. I think my lambda sensor has been deconected on the ecu by the tuner.

Re: F20B6

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:42 am
by Spunkster
If it is in open loop then you do not need any sensor at all.

Re: F20B6

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:42 am
by Christophe1976
We have a pollution controle on our car each two years, we must have a lambda sensor, if not, we can't drive.
So, I'll buy the sensor from a B16 engine and the tuner will recalibrate the ECU... you think it's ok for change lambda sensor from F20B6 to B16A2 ?

Re: F20B6

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:38 am
by Spunkster
You need to use an OBD1/OBD2 sensor with the correct plugs, but it is not a wideband and cannot be used for tuning as it is not sensitive enough to be used for accurate measurement. It will only be useful as a stock o2 that can allow the ECU to run in closed loop when properly tuned.

Re: F20B6

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:41 am
by Christophe1976
Ok, if I understand, I have to use a wideband sensor to make a accurate measurement because my car was not stock, then the tuner has to make a properly tune and stay in open loop