On-board datalogging problems

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On-board datalogging problems

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Hi,
I am running the S300 v3 and am having issues with datalogging.

When I run the car connected to my laptop and recording, it runs great without any issues.

I had connected a switch to the power steering input at B8 to use the on-board datalogging function. When I test drove it like this, the car ran badly with lots of missing and wanting to die. The datalog showed sharp spikes on various sensors such as VSS, INJ, IGN. It also felt like it stumbled and would not want to rev above 4k rpm.

Initially I thought that I had wired the switch wrong, so I test drove it after disabling onboard datalogging and activating the switch to B8 just to see if somehow I was putting something weird into the ECU at B8. The car ran perfect again as if grounding B8 did not change how the car ran (which is good).

I then edited the calibration to force onboard datalogging to always be 'on'. When I did this, the car ran poorly again. Any tips on what to do to troubleshoot this? The ability to onboard log without use of a laptop is a pretty valuable feature for me. If anyone has any advice, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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Using on board datalogging should have no effect on how the engine runs as the engine does not run from the K-Pro board, but from the ECU itself.
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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Helpful.

Okay, let me ask this, then: is on-board datalogging fundamentally different (in terms of what is being used on the ecu or s300v3 board) than recording data via USB on a laptop? I have issues with one and not the other.

Based off my observations, something is clearly changing when onboard logging is used.
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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How exactly are you triggering on-board datalogging?
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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I've tried in two different ways, both with the same result:

1) via manual switch Pin B8
2) Editing calibration to set on-board datalogging to "always on"
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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Post your calibration and a datalog showing the problem.
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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Uploaded.

170410_onboard_datalog2.s3d is the log obtained when using a manual switch at pin B8 with the car running poorly.
170410_laptop_datalog_short.s3d is the log obtained from the laptop logging and the car running very well.
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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I would recommend that you try the ECU in a Honda with a Honda engine and see if you get the same results as we have never heard of this type of problem.
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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Will give it a shot.

As a last ditch, I tried to use the "erase ECU" function to try and clear it and start over in case something was weird. The progress bar shows up and it gets to almost max and I get an error message saying "ECU did not erase".

Is that normal? Seemed weird to me. Tried several times with unplugging and restarting Smanager and turning the key to the off position.
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Re: On-board datalogging problems

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That should not matter and really has nothing to do with datalogging.
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